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Simplifying Org Complexities for Better Results

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Janet Sherlock, Founder & CEO at Org.Works, joins Mudassar Malik on Behind the Growth to challenge how most companies approach transformation, org design, AI strategy, and why their structures are often built to fail. Drawing from her executive experience and doctoral research, Janet breaks down what she calls “the hidden architecture” that shapes performance across every level of an enterprise.

The conversation starts with a critique of role bloat at the top, like Chief Digital Officer, Chief Innovation Officer, Chief AI Officer, and how overlapping mandates erode clarity and accountability. Janet outlines how these roles are often a symptom of structural misalignment, not a solution to it. Introducing the Org.Works philosophy, “less but better,” she explains why simplicity, not complexity, is what drives resilience and execution.

From there, the episode moves into the three most common org design pitfalls, using real-world examples like Unilever’s model shift and omnichannel challenges in retail and banking. Janet shares the telltale signs of structural dysfunction—misaligned KPIs, constant pre-meetings, unclear decision ownership—and why fixing these isn’t just about new titles or reorgs but about rethinking how teams are built to collaborate.

The second half of the conversation dives into AI: not tools or talent, but structure. Janet introduces her CFD model: Center of Enablement, Federated AI and Modeling, Democratized Data. She elaborates on why governance, flexibility, and accountability matter more than hype.

Finally, she breaks down how boards are shifting from AI education to execution, and why CEOs must stop chasing ROI and start investing in long-term capabilities.

Featured Guest

  • Name: Janet Sherlock
  • What she does: Founder & CEO
  • Company: Org.works
  • Noteworthy:Janet Sherlock brings extensive board and executive experience, coupled with academic research in organizational design, to her role as founder and CEO of Org.Works. Her advisory firm focuses on creating efficiency and growth by simplifying organizational complexity.

    Dr. Sherlock’s research and experience reveal that unclear and overly complex organizational structures are major contributors to productivity and profitability challenges, as well as workplace conflict. She is dedicated to helping companies streamline their structures to achieve clarity, alignment, and exceptional results.

    In her most recent corporate role, Dr. Sherlock served as Chief Digital and Technology Officer at Ralph Lauren Corporation, overseeing the company’s multi-billion-dollar global e-commerce business. Her leadership was instrumental in modernizing Ralph Lauren’s technology, data, and processes enterprise wide.

    Previously, she served as Chief Information Officer at Carter’s, Inc., and led the Digital and Omnichannel practice at Gartner, a leading research and advisory firm. Dr. Sherlock has also held P&L and technology leadership roles at organizations including Guess?, Inc., Calico Corners, British Petroleum, and ExxonMobil. Her board experience spans public, private, governmental, and non-profit sectors, where organizational design has been central to her success.

    Recently, Dr. Sherlock has provided advisory services on AI strategy and organizational models, Executive Leadership Team (ELT) composition, product management structures, and digital team redesigns.

    Dr. Sherlock holds a doctorate in Organizational Change & Leadership from the University of Southern California and is certified by the National Association of Corporate Directors (NACD). She earned an MBA from Marymount University and a Bachelor of Science in Supply Chain Management from Penn State University.

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Key Insights

Structural misalignment quietly undermines execution at every level
Enterprises often focus on top-line strategy but overlook how deeply structure determines success. When a company organizes around the wrong axis, say, by geography instead of product, it can disrupt everything from go-to-market operations to performance metrics. This mismatch creates a slow erosion of execution that may go unnoticed until performance slips. Janet outlines that structure isn’t just an HR design choice; it’s foundational to how work gets done.

Org complexity doesn’t signal sophistication—it signals friction
In large enterprises, complexity often creeps in under the guise of progress. New executive roles, overlapping functions, and transformation offices may look strategic on paper, but typically signal unresolved problems. Janet shares that many organizations now carry unnecessary departments designed solely to bridge internal gaps; teams that exist because core structures aren’t working. For example, if marketing and sales need a dedicated team just to collaborate, that’s not innovation—it’s a failure of structural clarity.

AI success depends more on structure than on tools
Most enterprises treat AI as a technology investment, but it’s far more dependent on how the organization is structured. Janet introduces a model with three tiers: a Center of Enablement (typically within IT), Federated Model Ownership (embedded in functions like marketing or supply chain), and Democratized Data and Insights (accessible across the org). This model ensures clarity in who owns what and enables AI to scale without becoming a bottleneck. Without this kind of structure, companies end up with fragmented ownership, duplicated efforts, and governance breakdowns.

Complexity is often mistaken for sophistication.

Episode Highlights

Less But Better Isn’t a Buzzword

Janet breaks down the real meaning behind her organizational philosophy: “less but better.” Instead of bloated transformation offices or redundant roles, she pushes for fewer layers, fewer handoffs, and cleaner accountability. It’s a deliberate rejection of complexity disguised as progress—a reminder that efficiency starts with clarity.

“Complexity is often mistaken for sophistication.”

Structure Shouldn’t Need an Interpreter

Janet delivers a sharp rebuke to over-engineered org charts. She explains that when structure is clear, organizations move faster and perform better—without relying on consultants to decode the hierarchy. Simplicity isn’t just an aesthetic; it’s operational advantage.

“If you can get the structure right, you don’t need another team or consultant to interpret the structure for you.”

When Pre-Meetings Signal a Problem

Janet outlines the subtle but revealing signs that a structure is failing—like the number of pre-meetings before a meeting. These friction points aren’t always visible on an org chart, but they cost time, energy, and clarity. For executives, they’re red flags of hidden inefficiencies.

“If you end up having to align different departments so that you can come across as aligned in an executive meeting or a board meeting, that’s a sign.”

Boards Are Asking Smarter AI Questions

Janet observes that boards have evolved from asking what AI is to asking how it’s being governed. They’re looking beyond innovation to risk, structure, and accountability—pressing questions that can’t be answered with tech stacks alone.

“Boards are starting to ask much better questions. What is the AI strategy? Where is AI being used? Who’s accountable for outcomes?”

Don’t Put AI Agents in the Org Chart

In a fast-emerging debate, Janet offers a strong take: AI agents don’t belong in org charts. Instead, orgs should create flexible structures that support evolution—while still giving people the stability they need to operate effectively.

“Build it so there’s enough flexibility that people and processes and agents have space to change and move and migrate, but keep some stability within the organization.”

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